Mac Mini 2018

stefan33

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Gigabyte Z370N WIFI
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i5-8600K
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i5-8600K
#1
Hi, to everybody... :) What I'm gonna try to do: Mac Mini i5-8400.

I was looking to this build: Fantastic!!! The same i want.. no discrete graphic card, small and powerfull with 4K@60.
https://hackintosher.com/builds/gigabyte-z370n-wifi-itx-hackintosh-guide-4k-htpc-build/

Now I'm at step 2 done :)
Step 2 – Creating the macOS Installer
How to make a USB flash drive installer for macOS – Hackintosher

For my build I whould like to start with:
1 - Gigabyte Z370N WiFi ITX
2 - i5-8400
3 - 8Gb Ram Corsair Vengeance LPX
4 - Noctua NH-L9i
5 - 128/256 G SSD
6 - Broadcom BCM94352Z / Dell DW1560 WLAN + Bluetooth

Than I will setup the case, fan, pico psu ecc...

I have the first 2 questions:
1 - The CPU that i find here:
https://hackintosher.com/parts/
I don't/can't go with K version. So for not have troubles with the cpu is better to go with i5-8400 or I can go also with 8500, 8600 ecc... only to know... May be could be that some processors are not correctly supported ecc...

2 - For the memory wich frequences is better for not have troubles ecc...???? 2133/2400/2666/2800/3000/3200/ ecc...

Many thanks to everyone that can help me...
 

stefan33

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Gigabyte Z370N WIFI
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i5-8600K
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i5-8600K
#2
Excuse me but all these steps must me done with Clover on the usb stick done on the step 2?

Step 3 – Add Clover to EFI Boot Partition
  1. Download Clover Configurator
  2. Open Clover Configurator
  3. Select Mount EFI under TOOLS
  4. Click Mount Partition for Install macOS….
  5. Click Open Partition (This is your EFI Folder)
  6. Delete the existing EFI folder if it’s in the partition
  7. Download Hackintosher’s High Sierra EFI.zip
  8. Unzip High Sierra EFI.zip
  9. Copy & Paste the unzipped EFI folder to mounted partition or /Volumes/EFI
Step 4 – EFI Changes Integrated UHD 630 Graphics
If using integrated graphics only without a graphics card use iMac 18,1.
  1. Download & Unzip config.plist Coffee Lake iMac 18,1.zip
  2. Replace the config.plist in /Volumes/EFI/EFI/Clover/ with the config.plist downloaded above
Note: If using an i3 a post-install steps along with some config.plist changes will be required later on in this guide to get graphical acceleration.
Step 5 – Gigabyte config.plist Changes:
  1. Navigate to /Volumes/EFI/EFI/Clover of your mounted EFI partition
  2. Open config.plist with Clover Configurator
  3. Highlight Acpi on left column
  4. Under fixes check FixShutdown
  5. Save config.plist

Many thanks.
 
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Gigabyte Z370N WIFI (BCM94352Z / 04X6020)
CPU
Intel® Core™ i5-8400
GPU
Sapphire Pulse RX570 ITX
#4
Hi stefan33,

I just recently finished a similar build and here are my remarks on the hardware:

GA-Z370N is very good ITX mobo, you can use "K" CPU's but those are 95TDP vs 65TDP, more heat in the case. I went with the 8400 and I am very happy with it. The only two applications I came across so far that can top all 6 cores are DXO PhotoLab and FCP X. Other apps are just tasting it's power. In Mac you don't really need more that 6 cores.

iGPU is very capable for everyday use, if you do not plan to process heavy image or video editing work that will serve you well.
eg: Affinity Photo does not benefit from dedicated GPU, AuroraHDR, Luminar, DXO PhotoLab gets slightly (5%) faster with dedicated GPU but in general they eat more RAM and CPU than GPU.
Some processes of PhotoShop / Lightroom can benefit from NVIDIA GPU however the above priority also applies. max out RAM-> max out CPU-> NVIDIA 1060 6GB or 1070.

1st priority more-more RAM absolute minimum 8Gb but not recommended, preffered 16Gb however 32Gb is even better. Second priority is CPU, but 8400 is very good and will serve you for many years. 8700K is waste of money if you do not steam of video edit 24/7.
Save money on the "K" CPU and get more RAM!!!
I picked Corsair 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz Vengeance LPX Black CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 and running it on max speed in BIOS. Very pleased and according to some own measurements there is 3-5% increase in performance in systematic benchmarks vs no XMP.
This specific model will definitely work in the MOBO / GA-Z370N v1.0

I use the Noctua - NH-L12 in blow down orientation and my temps are stable at around 40C.
Noctua is the best choice, get the model that will fit in your case.

For the WIFI/BT card I went with the Broadcom BCM94352Z and no issues except on upgrading from 10.13.5 to 10.13.6 some kext needed to be moved around, cleaned up. Since then I am using the card flawless in triple boot MacOS/Win10 / Ubuntu.

Just follow the guide on the site, take your time and installation should not be an issue.
 
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stefan33

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i5-8600K
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i5-8600K
#5
Thank you so much.... I'm going to build only i7-8400 + GA-Z370N... I have 2 X 8 Gb of the same memory thath you have, same cpu cooler.... So, NO discrete GPU, pico PSU 200W and a small case + a normal 2.5 SSD... The problems will be the temperatures....!!!! I'm asking to you: the i7-8400 has got the multiplier unlocked un down? I can I downvolt the cpu and decrese the multiplier or for that I need only a K version? Many thanks.... :)
 
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Intel® Core™ i5-8400
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Sapphire Pulse RX570 ITX
#6
I believe there is a bit of confusion on your side:

K unlocked CPUs are 95TDP and locked non-K CPU's are 65TDP, the low heat dissipation variant is T.

Depending on your workflow /use case you need to decide what your needs are.
Take your most demanding app, use HWmonitor to see how much CPU power the same app is using and factor in time you spend with the same app in a week.

The i5-8400 has been the best value/core intel CPU until recently Intel CPUs were hit by price hike due to stock shortages. It was selling around $165-170. It has 6 cores no threads. It's fairly enough for everyday use. The unlocked version is the i5-8600K but I do not see the price difference justified for being unlocked.
The i7-8700K is the king of the Coffe Lake family however it generates quite some heat under load and I would not recommend it for an SFF as well as it would drain more power.

The i3-8100 is 4 core only.

If you see heat to be a problem you could choose the 8400T variant which is 35WTDP emitting half the heat of the regular 8400.

Since you are building a SFF you must not buy K version unless you want to prepare your toast with it.

The BIOS only allows me to change the voltage for the locked CPU but I use all automatic settings. I was not after under/over-volt.

It's all about your requirements and your choices...

Have a look here for more clarity:

https://www.custompcguide.net/intel...kaby-lake-7700k-ryzen-7-1700x-cpu-comparison/

Other option is to wait for the new i5-9400 / 9500 / 9600 CPU and get the new Z390 MOBO

Too many choices, huh?
 
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stefan33

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i5-8600K
#7
Thank you so much... I wanto to explain the reason I was talking about K version.

I have one Asrock z270 Gaming ITX with i7-6700 in a small case. Now the i7-6700 it's hot enougth... So i decide to downvolt it an disable the turbo... So I can go maximum with 4 core @3400 no more.... I can't decrease the moultiplier.... With the K version yes...

Normally with AMD lock multiplier mens that you can't go over but you can go down... With intel (and my Z270 Asrock it's impossible.... May be with this z370 Gigabyte yes....
I was thinking to K version on this mini mac onli to have the multiplier unlock but for downvolt... Yes I can get the T version but if than I decide to get a bigger case... than 8400 normal should be better like K.... :) Thank you again...
 
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#8
Uhh, that is a serious waste of resources to buy a capable processor and limit it to base clock.

8400 does not have the K unlocked variant, it's the 8600 which has unlocked version.

Identify your top priority and build your system accordingly. You can not tick all the boxes at once for SFF.

From your comment I concluded temperature is the 1st priority.
- If so your best bet is the i5 8400T (35W TDP)
Or upgrade your case or cooling

Performance improvement is your top priority.
- get the i7-8700K

Cost is your priority
stick to 6700k

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...l-i5-8400T-vs-Intel-i7-6700K/3097vs3260vs2565

Good luck!
 
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#10
you can use any of the coffee Lake CPUs the question is the value for money as well as availability these days
 

stefan33

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#11
The i5-8400 was 180€ now is 270€!!!!!
One question: but with your gigabyte z370 itx can you drive 3 monitors at the same time? Thank you... :)
I mean in my case with only the cpu onboard graphics....
 

stefan33

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#12
Tonight I bought the Bradcom WiFi@23€, than the Z370 Wifi@150€, and maybe for some mistake I found the Antec ISK-110@65€ (In Europe normally 85/95€)....

I'm thinking now to replace psu with:
https://www.hdplex.com/hdplex-160w-dc-atx-power-supply-16v-24v-wide-range-voltage-input.html

+ Dell PA-9E that I have:

https://www.ebay.it/itm/Genuine-DELL-240W-AC-Adapter-Charger-Power-Supply-PA-9E-UK-Cable-FHMD4-J211H/330519733426?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

For cpu cooler I'm thinking to this one:
http://www.cooltek.de/en/cpu-cooler/lp53/128/lp53

with Noctua Fan 92x92x14 PWM fan or 92x92x25 if it can fit.....

Than the big problem... Money for CPU...


After 10 minutes I bought the ISK-110 the price has rise up @ 81€ :)
 
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stefan33

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#13
Now I have bought a i5-8400 @ 187€ delivered @ Ibiza.... So, I'm happy...
Now better a Noctua NH-L9i with a Noctua 92x92x25 fan on a Cooltek LP53 with only a normal Noctua 25x25x14 Fan?
 

stefan33

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#14
Amazon has deleted my i5-8400 order... How much is now i5 8th Generation??? 300 USD for 8400??? Are they crazy?
 

stefan33

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#15
@ the end I get the i5-8600K :) For now seems that everything is working fine... I will post some pictures soon.... Many thanks to everybody.... my be we can change the title with success... :)
I'm testing... but I have many questions...

But now I can use my official account for to log in the apple store, icloud ecc... like a normal Mac? Many thanks... but I'm new.
 
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stefan33

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i5-8600K
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i5-8600K
#18
Please one question: If I add a Bluetooth Keyboard... like this for exemple:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard-for-mac-ipad-iphone

Can I have access to the bios of the motherboard or boot option like I have in clover menu... if the keyboard is bluetooth... I don't know much about that ...but the keyboard can be paired to the mac after booting only or also can be used paired to move inside bios options? I hope you can understand what I mean... many thanks.
 

chinotto

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GB z370n
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i5 8400
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Intel
#19
Not sure about the keyboard but my magic trackpad 2 works in bios over bluetooth.
 

stefan33

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#20
Hi @ Edhawk... I think you are an expert...
Today my SSD Samsun 970 Evo is coming...... so I will put it inside...
One question.... my machine with 10.13.4 is working perfect...
When I downloaded the High Sierra from Apple Store I get 10.13.4 so my vanilla clean istallation was direct wit 10.13.4.... and everything working...
What do you suggest me.... To keep my system like it is now or try to upgrade @ 10.13.5/6?
If you think is better to upgrade what kind of issues I will find...and how can I solve it....? Many thanks.
 
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