Mainboard buying advice needed for i7-9700K & High Sierra - z370/z390?

voisardf

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#1
Hi everybody,

I would appreciate your advice on what motherboard to choose to build my first Hackintosh?
My speciality is, that I have a i7-9700K and a Geforce GTX 1070 Ti I really want to use (NVIDIA IRAY rendering and Blender Cycles), so I have to go with High Sierra as long as webdrivers for my GPU are lacking, but that is fine.

The components I already have or plan to use:
CPU - Intel Core i7-9700K (3.60GHz/ 12MB)
CPU-Cooler - Corsair H100i Pro RGB
GPU - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Ti GAMING 8Gb
(maybe an AMD RX580 later on, if I have the extra money)
RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance LPX Black, 32GB - 3000 MHz
SSD - SAMSUNG 970 Evo SSD M.2, 1.0TB (changed that from the newer EVO PLUS version that does not work well on hackintosh, it seems)
(maybe a secondary later on: ADATA Ultimate SU800 SSD, 2.0TB)
HDD - Various WD and Seagate 3.5" SATA III laying around
Optical - Asus DRW-24D5MT DVD±RW
PSU - Corsair RM750x (2018) - 750W
Case - CORSAIR Carbide 330R Blackout Edition
OS - High Sierra due to my combination of GPU and CPU
Windows 10 home 64bit oem
Mainboard - z370 or z390?

As I am new to the game, I have some questions:
- Should I prefer a z390 mainboard over a z370? As I understand it, High Sierra and the 9th gen i7-9700K work on both?
- Any preferences between Asus Prime Z390-A or the Gigabyte z390 AORUS Ultra where I could follow the guide (https://hackintosher.com/builds/gigabyte-z390-aorus-ultra-i7-9700k-vega-64-hackintosh-build-guide/)

- If I go for the AORUS Ultra, are wifi and bluetooth working out of the box or do I need a separate card? I didn't see the answer or overlooked it in the build guide
- Any know issues/incompatibility with the above components besides the hassle I will probably have with the GTX 1070? ;)
- Any recommendations for a firewire card?

- And while I'm at it - what RX 580 would you recommend as obviously the quality depends on the manufacturer? Is one of these two ok?
  • SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 580 Pulse - 8GB
  • Gigabyte Aorus Radeon RX 580 - 8GB

A huge thanks in advance for your thoughts! :)
 
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#2
If you have a link to a Guide for a z390 motherboard then you should be good to go with the Z390 board. These are a new boards and should be a work in progress, as there not too many users providing guides for a Z390 Hack.

There will not be a great difference between the Z370 and Z390 boards, obviously there is the newer Intel Chipset on the Z390 board, but most other components will be very similar.

Your Z390 motherboard choices are really similar, both have Intel Ethernet, Intel USB controllers and ALC S1220 audio Controllers. Both also have internal Thunderbolt connectors, so an add-on card would be a feasible upgrade in the future if not staightaway.

Of the two motherboards I think the Asus board looks better, but otherwise they are nearly identical in design and the components used. Cost may be an important factor for you to consider, along with availability, and the cost of the associated Thunderbolt add-on cards if you were to go down that route.

Any Firewire card with a Texas Instrument chipset would be suitable, here is a link to an Amazon.co.uk page that has one PCI and two PCI-E Startech FireWire cards, you need a PCI-E card with either of the two boards you are considering for your Hack - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000WCT...reativeASIN=B000WCT5HK&tag=tonymacx86-21&th=1.

The rest of your components look just fine.
 

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#3
Hi Edhawk,
thanks for your quick and helpfull reply!
Yes, there is a (successfull) guide over at tonymac for an Asus Prime z390-A with the i9700K and High Sierra, but an Vega GPU instead.

So I will go with the Asus Prime as it saves me some extra bucks I can spend on other components :)

I will try to document my steps as good as possible to help others, but as said it's my first build so it probably ain't a straightforward thing but rather a lot of try and error...
We will see next week hopefully.

cheers!
 
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#4
I’ll try to make the same configuration as yours.
Here’s my setup:
Mobo: MSI – MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE AC
Processador: Core i7-9700K ou i9
Cooler/WC: Noctua – NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
Memory: Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (2 x 16GB)
SSDs: Samsung – 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive x2
Fonte: CORSAIR RMx Series RM1000X
VGA: Sapphire – Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE
Case: MacPro 2008
Do you believe I will have any incompatibility?
I still do not have the parts but the project is this.
 

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#5
Hi LiveSorcerer,

I just started preparing a new post as followup. :)
I'll post it in a few days in the corresponding section. But good news first, I successfully build my first PC and got it running as hackintosh:

FirstHackintosh.jpg


I have some minor things to optimize as in my first vanilla install attempt I was not perfectly sure about some kexts and configs to choose given my NVIDIA GPU.
So for now the system does not recognize my cpu information and I have a strange logon screen. But other than that, everything seems to run just fine for now.

As far as I can tell as a newbie, your components look fine, but to confirm by a pro like Edhawk.
Just make sure the Samsung EVO 970 are NOT the new PLUS ones as they are not working (yet) as it seems.

happy building!
 
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Just make sure the Samsung EVO 970 are NOT the new PLUS ones as they are not working (yet) as it seems
Hence the doubt, how I can identify if it is the new or the old, of this model.
Good question.
 

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Hence the doubt, how I can identify if it is the new or the old, of this model.
Good question.
the plus sign is printed on the ssd. So go with the one without the plus writing
 
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the plus sign is printed on the ssd. So go with the one without the plus writing
I understood, I thought it was a revision type version of Plus, type, V.1 or V.2 instead of all that are Plus do not support.
@BigNilly,cIs your motherboard ATX or mATX?
I was watching his wifi version, and I do not think it will fit the case I'm going to put, which in this case would be the MacPro 2008 case.
 

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I understood, I thought it was a revision type version of Plus, type, V.1 or V.2 instead of all that are Plus do not support.
@BigNilly,cIs your motherboard ATX or mATX?
I was watching his wifi version, and I do not think it will fit the case I'm going to put, which in this case would be the MacPro 2008 case.
I have the ATX. Don't buy one with WiFi because it has intel chipset that will not work with hackintosh.
(sorry form my english)
 
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I have the ATX. Don't buy one with WiFi because it has intel chipset that will not work with hackintosh.
(sorry form my english)
In my case I will do dual boot with Windows 10, and I will use 2 SSD M.2, one for each system.
I thought about getting a Macbook Air wifi and put it in a PCI adapter to put on that hackintosh, so it would be "native".
Where you are from?
I'm brazilian.
 
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If I use an ATX, it will get very tight.
Here's a photo of a tonymacx86.com user @Tienne.
And I will miss using the other PCI-Express.

 
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Where you are from?
I'm brazilian.
I'm italian and I play capoeira!!
well, if you use a native WiFi chip from a real mac it's ok, so you can remove the integrated intel chip and replace it or use a PCIe adapter. But consider that the PCIe are in a limitate number the i7 has only 16 lanes and a graphic card will take 16. The mobo will manage the flow according to the request from the various peripherals, but my personal thought is to use the less PCIe lanes possible for have better performance. It's only my personal though! for this reason I preferred the ethernet connections that work with no problems. you can go with usb WiFi but i had some problem with it so i switched with ethernet.I am probably wrong but i prefer this way
 
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Good point about PCIe.
It would be better if you could get the motherboard to work in that case.
Here, this computer will stay away from the router, and with that it would be interesting to use the wifi.
 

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As a desktop machine you also have the option of installing a PCI-E card with a real Mac wifi/bluetooth card mounted, such as one of these Hackintosh compatible wifi/BT cards - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-...ckintosh+wifi&qid=1557258360&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I use older versions of these cards in all my Hacks. Continuity, handoff, Bluetooth 4.0 and AC WiFi all work.

Note you need a spare USB motherboard header for connecting the Bluetooth.
 
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This card needs to be connected to a USB port for the Bluetooth to work, that usually means an internal header.
 
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This card needs to be connected to a USB port for the Bluetooth to work, that usually means an internal header.
Ohh sure, understood.
Tks.
 
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I changed my setup:
Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
Noctua - NH-U12A CPU Cooler (purchased)
Gigabyte - Z390 M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (purchased)
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (purchased)
2x Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (purchased)
4x Seagate - IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5 "7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
8x Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 2.5 "5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB Video Card (purchased)
Gigabyte GA Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 (purchased)
Corsair - RMx 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power (purchased)
 
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